![]() There is only One person here who is so loved and delighted in. Isaiah 42:1 speaks of the coming Servant of God (Jesus) as His chosen One, and the One in Whom His soul delights! Do you hear that language God the Father trying to describe to us the pleasure that He takes in His Servant( His Son) says that His soul ( an expression to relate His fulness) takes delight in this One. Ephesians 1:6 speaks of the Son as the Beloved. For the Father has spoken from Heaven concerning His Son saying, "This is My Beloved Son, in Whom I am well-pleased" Matthew 3:17. ![]() There is no love that compares to the love God has for His Son. Therefore, the love of God for us is defined by the love which God has for His Son. I believe that before we begin to qualify the love that the Father has toward us, we must define the love which the Father has for His Son.According to Jesus in John 17: 23 the Father loves us even as he loves the Son. ![]() And after many of the articles and websites that I have found, it seems to me that most people are answering this question out of a mindset which states: "God is too loving to hurt us!" I could be wrong in this, but the overwhelming sense is that most people view God in this way and in the least those authors of such articles do. I have no answer yet to the fact in question concerning the shepherd and one of his sheep which continue to wander that is actually how I found this site, while looking for that answer. God is no lagging Father! :) The sufferings of His Son prove that His love is fierce enough to penetrate through any veil of sin! For it is in this the God demonstrates His own love towards us, in that while we were still actively rebellious towards Him, He crushed His own Son (Romans 5:1-11). It is something to take God at his word for, even when it is not directly seen or experienced. In practice, applying this idea to suffering is a good mindset but only in the most general sense that a Christian can know themselves to be loved and not abandoned in the midst of suffering, not that they can deduce the special reasons that make particular instances of suffering ultimately good for them. Various theological camps have different beliefs on what it means to be elect, but the reformed tradition of which I am a part believes that the Bible teaches that the elect are those whom God has predestined from before the foundation of the world by grace to be granted the gift of faith, unto salvation. Generally speaking, being called according to the purposes of God is synonymous with being the elect of God. Who is the object of that promise? Those who love God AND are called according to His purpose. So there is a promise, all things work together for good of the object of that promise. Good, for those who are called according to his purpose. As well-meaning as it is, from a standpoint of pastoral guidance and discipleship, it's not very helpful for a disciple to look upon human suffering and remember the alleged practices of ancient near-east shepherds.įrom a Biblical theology standpoint, the most notable passage is:Īnd we know that for those who love God all things work together for ![]() I would be wary of a sermon which develops it's doctrines concerning God's occasionally harsh treatment of man from the interpretation of a supposed ancient practice. In addition, if this pastor's message is wrong, please do explain. ![]() Lastly, what would be some examples of this? Would God try to keep someone humble and alive for eternity by giving them depression? Or if God knew someone could not control their lust make them unattractive, to preserve them?Īny info on how this works is greatly appreciated. If so, does He do this for some people or for everyone? Now, he did not go into detail or give examples, so my question is:ĭoes God inhibit us in ways that are to keep us from going to Hell? Next, the pastor stated that this is what God does with us because He loves us. So, because the Shepherd so loved His sheep, He would break their legs to keep them alive. More specifically, that in the old days, if the Shepherd had a sheep that was prone to wandering off from the herd or out of the protection of the pen, the Shepherd would actually break the sheep's leg and reset it, so that it would not wander and be killed by a prowling predator. This pastor stated that God is like a Shepherd and that we are His sheep. On my way home, I was listening to a pastor's sermon on KWAVE. The title of this question has an element of humor but is very real. ![]()
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